1 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:16,100 [Music] 2 00:00:42,069 --> 00:00:39,520 a 1976 ufo encounter in kentucky the 3 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:42,079 evidence by charles lear as mentioned 4 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:43,680 last week in part three of this 5 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:46,079 four-part series investigators from the 6 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:48,320 aerial phenomena research organization 7 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:50,559 the mutual ufo network and the center 8 00:00:54,869 --> 00:00:52,960 for ufo studies traveled to liberty 9 00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:54,879 kentucky to interview three women who'd 10 00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:57,520 reported an unusual encounter according 11 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,160 to the women louise smith mona stafford 12 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:02,559 and elaine thomas they suffered physical 13 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:04,720 effects after the encounter including 14 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,640 one inch by three inch rectangular 15 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:08,240 burn-like marks on the backs of their 16 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:10,400 necks a burning sensation on certain 17 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:12,720 areas of skin when in contact with water 18 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:15,680 and red irritated eyes they also seem to 19 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:18,159 have lost around 80 minutes this was on 20 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:21,200 january 6 1976 21 00:01:25,429 --> 00:01:23,520 jim and coral lorenzen of april were 22 00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:25,439 told about the case by april field 23 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:27,759 investigator bill terry he told them 24 00:01:31,670 --> 00:01:29,520 that abduction might have been involved 25 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:31,680 and they arranged for apro psychiatric 26 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,240 consultant dr leo sprinkle to travel to 27 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:36,000 liberty and interview the women at 28 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:38,560 apro's expense he was a specialist in 29 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,960 hypnotic regression and apra was hoping 30 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:42,640 that the women would agree to undergo 31 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,439 the procedure unfortunately mufon and 32 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:47,360 kufos investigators had gotten the 33 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:50,640 liberty on february 29 1976 the day 34 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:52,560 before terry and when he returned with 35 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:54,560 sprinkle on march 5th the mufon and 36 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:56,880 kufos investigators felt that because 37 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:59,040 they were there first terry and apro 38 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:01,680 should step aside however since sprinkle 39 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:03,840 was there they wanted to make use of his 40 00:02:07,749 --> 00:02:05,600 skills and hypnotism for their own 41 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:07,759 investigations while still excluding 42 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:10,800 apra as apra had paid his expenses the 43 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:13,360 lorenzens didn't take kindly to the idea 44 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:15,040 an agreement was made where sprinkle 45 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:16,800 would conduct hypnotic regression 46 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:18,879 sessions with the women and all reports 47 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:20,720 on the case would be published only 48 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:23,760 after a mutual agreement the details of 49 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:25,920 the first hypnosis session are in the 50 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:28,080 report written by mufon investigator 51 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:30,000 leonard stringfield published in the 52 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:34,000 january 1977 mufon ufo journal according 53 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,239 to stringfield only stafford agreed to 54 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,560 be hypnotized the investigators met at 55 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:40,480 the home of stafford's parents and 56 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:43,120 sprinkle put his subject at ease then 57 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:46,000 into a deep hypnotic state stafford then 58 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,800 agonizingly recalled the encounter she 59 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:50,879 was unable however to fill in any 60 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:52,400 details of what might have happened 61 00:02:57,750 --> 00:02:54,640 during the missing time sprinkle was 62 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:57,760 unable to return until late july 1976 63 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:00,319 due to lack of funds funds were procured 64 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:02,480 through a deal made with bob pratt a 65 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:04,879 respected ufo investigator who manned 66 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:07,519 the ufo desk at the national enquirer it 67 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:09,599 was also arranged that polygraphist 68 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:11,519 james c young would be present to 69 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:14,640 conduct polygraph exams on friday july 70 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:17,760 23 the women pratt sprinkle stringfield 71 00:03:22,149 --> 00:03:20,239 and young all met at the brown motel in 72 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,159 liberty for the polygraph exams and 73 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:24,640 hypnosis sessions as mentioned in last 74 00:03:28,949 --> 00:03:26,640 week's blog there was some sloppiness in 75 00:03:30,869 --> 00:03:28,959 the investigation one instance is 76 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:30,879 stringfield misidentifying the month 77 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:33,519 they met as june throughout his report 78 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:35,519 the women's signed documents agreeing to 79 00:03:40,869 --> 00:03:38,080 undergo polygraph exams included in the 80 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:40,879 kufos file provided by david marlar are 81 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:44,319 dated july 23rd young a liberty police 82 00:03:48,869 --> 00:03:46,319 detective and president of professional 83 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:48,879 polygraph consultants inc administered 84 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:50,720 the exams after being briefed on the 85 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:53,439 case he wrote up a report and sent it to 86 00:03:58,470 --> 00:03:56,400 pratt in the report kept in the kufos 87 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:58,480 file he noted what he considered to be 88 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:00,879 truthful responses to specific questions 89 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:02,959 about the case according to young's 90 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:05,439 report smith answered yes when asked if 91 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:07,120 there was a period of time she couldn't 92 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:09,840 account for if a ufo hovered over her 93 00:04:14,949 --> 00:04:12,480 car and if she'd lost physical control 94 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:14,959 over the car stafford answered yes when 95 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:17,440 asked about the ufo and if she felt a 96 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:19,680 burning sensation in her eyes and she 97 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,160 answered no when asked if she conspired 98 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:24,560 to create a hoax thomas answered yes 99 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,199 when asked about the ufo if she saw it 100 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:29,600 sent a beam of light toward the car if 101 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:31,199 there was a period of time she couldn't 102 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,440 account for and she answered no to the 103 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:35,919 question of conspiring to create a hoax 104 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:38,240 young's opinion was that all three women 105 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:39,919 believed they were telling the truth as 106 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:41,919 they understood it but he was unable to 107 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:43,600 determine how much influence the 108 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:45,680 interviews by the investigators prior to 109 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:47,759 the exams might have had on the women's 110 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:50,560 beliefs after the exam smith underwent 111 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:52,639 regression during the time remaining and 112 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:54,720 all three women underwent regression the 113 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:56,720 next day for a total of two sessions 114 00:05:01,270 --> 00:04:58,960 each pratt summed up what each woman 115 00:05:03,189 --> 00:05:01,280 experienced in a report to the national 116 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,199 enquirer he wrote that they all 117 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:05,120 experienced fear and distress while 118 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:06,479 under hypnosis 119 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:08,639 according to him thomas recalled lying 120 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,240 on her back in a big narrow 121 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:12,960 incubator-like chamber with a window and 122 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,039 four foot tall creatures looking in from 123 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:17,520 the other side she recalled feeling pain 124 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:19,600 when a blunt instrument was pressed into 125 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,520 her upper left chest and that there was 126 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:23,199 something around her throat that 127 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:24,880 tightened and choked her every time she 128 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,440 tried to talk stafford recalled lying on 129 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:29,680 a bed in a white operating room her 130 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:31,840 right arm was immobilized and there were 131 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:33,919 three or four humanoids in white masks 132 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:36,000 and surgical clothing sitting around the 133 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:38,720 bed having a discussion she described 134 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:40,479 feeling like her eyes were being pulled 135 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:42,320 out of her head and having her stomach 136 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:44,800 blown up her feet seemed to swell and 137 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:46,800 were then bent backwards 138 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:48,720 smith recalled having something pulled 139 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:51,280 over her face to put her to sleep she 140 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:53,120 felt she was being prevented from seeing 141 00:05:57,029 --> 00:05:55,039 the creatures who were with her and she 142 00:05:58,950 --> 00:05:57,039 asked permission to see them she was 143 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:58,960 then able to see them and was so 144 00:06:01,909 --> 00:06:01,039 frightened that she quickly closed her 145 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:01,919 eyes 146 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:04,080 in sprinkles report he points out the 147 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:06,240 differences in the women's recollection 148 00:06:10,309 --> 00:06:08,160 all seemed to have been subjected to 149 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,319 different types of examinations in 150 00:06:14,469 --> 00:06:12,479 different types of rooms and stafford 151 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:14,479 had the impression that her room was 152 00:06:19,270 --> 00:06:16,400 inside of a volcano crater or 153 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:19,280 mountainside in pratt's report he notes 154 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:21,360 that there was apparently a flap in the 155 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:23,280 area at the time of the women's reported 156 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,440 encounter he reports that he came up 157 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:27,919 with the names of 57 witnesses and 158 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,400 interviewed 16 of them one man joe 159 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:33,039 bishop reported seeing a light so bright 160 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:34,319 you couldn't look at it through 161 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:37,120 binoculars on the night of january 6th 162 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:39,039 the women remember being at bishop's 163 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:41,280 farm entrance before suddenly finding 164 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:43,360 themselves eight miles away the 165 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:45,759 investigators found character witnesses 166 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,520 and some of their testimonies as given 167 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,479 to pratt are included in the kufos file 168 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,639 george anderson minister at the baptist 169 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:54,240 church where smith was a member and 170 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:56,720 played piano during services called her 171 00:07:01,350 --> 00:06:59,120 a good clean living woman with a fine 172 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:01,360 character danville kentucky police 173 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:03,280 lieutenant garland richard who was a 174 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:05,520 part of the gospel group smith sang with 175 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:07,280 confirmed that she was an honest 176 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,400 reputable person amos owens a preacher 177 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:12,560 at stafford's church not only vouched 178 00:07:17,589 --> 00:07:14,560 for her character but said that he and 179 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:17,599 his grandson saw a ufo at about the time 180 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:19,520 the women had but at a different 181 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:20,639 location 182 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:22,720 thomas's husband reported that after 183 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:24,960 being distressed by her encounter it 184 00:07:29,909 --> 00:07:27,520 took a long time getting back to her old 185 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:29,919 self though it was not to the point she 186 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:32,720 was he explained she's not easy to make 187 00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:35,360 mad like she used to be he said that in 188 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:37,599 the nearly 30 years he'd been with her 189 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:39,599 she'd never lied to him and he believed 190 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:40,800 her story 191 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:43,039 after the polygraph exams and hypnosis 192 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:45,440 sessions smith told sprinkle in a phone 193 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:47,840 conversation on monday that the physical 194 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:50,000 effects she stafford and thomas had 195 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:51,919 experienced the night of their encounter 196 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:54,560 had returned according to her all three 197 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:56,160 of them had the same marks on their 198 00:08:02,150 --> 00:07:58,400 necks and she and stafford both broke 199 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:02,160 out in rashes in the october 1976 april 200 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:04,319 bulletin there are details about what 201 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:05,919 the women experienced after the 202 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:08,560 investigators left stafford had trouble 203 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:10,400 sleeping and would go to her parents 204 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:12,479 house or friends and curl up on the 205 00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:15,280 floor she repeatedly told people that 206 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:16,879 she would not live to see another 207 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:19,440 birthday she did see another birthday 208 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:21,199 but according to an article about one of 209 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:23,840 the mufon investigators jerry black 210 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:27,599 thomas died of unknown causes in 1978. 211 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:29,759 smith had an urge to revisit the sight 212 00:08:33,909 --> 00:08:31,599 of their encounter and when she got 213 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,919 there she heard a voice say feel of your 214 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:36,240 hands she did and realized that the 215 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:38,320 three rings she always wore weren't 216 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:41,440 there then on september 26th she walked 217 00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:43,440 out of her trailer home and saw one of 218 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:46,000 them an onyx and diamond ring lying on 219 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:48,080 the stoop she promptly threw it in the 220 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:49,839 creek running nearby 221 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:52,480 as intriguing as this case may be it is 222 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:54,800 not very well known that it followed on 223 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,040 the heels of the highly publicized and 224 00:09:02,470 --> 00:08:59,760 still discussed travis walden case is 225 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:02,480 probably a major factor the lorenzens 226 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:04,240 might have said that it was because a 227 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:06,399 less than careful investigation made it 228 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:08,480 vulnerable to debunkers which was a 229 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:10,160 concern discussed in the bulletin